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Wednesday, September 16, 2009
Thursday, September 17, 2009
Karin (9/16/2009 4:54:56 PM): Hello!! Vow of silence again? ...hope that all is well with you...thought you were going to try to monopolize me. (I think you're going in the wrong direction <----) Sorry, but if anything is truly amiss, please just let me know so that I'm not dangling out here in infinity.
Karin (9/17/2009 10:19:04 AM): U still alive?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:39:33 PM): Where the heck have you been..!!!?????
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:39:55 PM): < g >...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:41:46 PM): No, the question is where have you been? I thought you were dead in a ditch somewhere...
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:43:03 PM): Im usually in a ditch...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:43:11 PM): I need to go to a meeting & won't be around till about 2:30pm...that is...if you have some time for me?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:43:37 PM): I should...
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:43:44 PM): unless something fires up here...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:44:19 PM): ok...feeling neglected
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:44:34 PM): I can understand that...!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:44:44 PM): sure, sure!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:44:53 PM): sure...!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:44:57 PM): like a wilting flower...
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:45:16 PM): which one of us is the wilted flower..?
Karin (9/17/2009 12:45:32 PM): me I think but, I see that you are still alive, that's good news!
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:46:06 PM): ah...I feel a bit wilted too..! yep...still alive and well...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:46:24 PM): everything good with you?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:46:40 PM): Yeah...not bad...how bout with you..?
Karin (9/17/2009 12:47:05 PM): been a busy week...just starting to calm down here
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:47:26 PM): yeah...here too...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:47:59 PM): so, you coming over tonight...??
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:48:22 PM): Im over there now...where are you..??
Karin (9/17/2009 12:48:38 PM): You're there now?! Go in & make yourself comfortable
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:49:11 PM): yeah...Im here...
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:49:15 PM): thanks...!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:49:26 PM): np...which room will you be in?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:49:47 PM): In the library...with a candlestick...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:50:14 PM): ah-ha, just think of me as Miss. Scarlet...with a body stocking...lol
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:50:32 PM): I already have...< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 12:50:42 PM): gooood!!! I hope that you're going to find some time to get together soon...I'm trying to think of something outrageous ...just for you!
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:51:45 PM): lol.........no need for the outrageous...!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:52:02 PM): I'm outrageous enough just as I am..!?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:52:20 PM): I might be the outrageous one...!??
Karin (9/17/2009 12:52:51 PM): you think...hmmm, that would be very interesting...for me I think that I might like you a little on the outrageous side
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:53:23 PM): oh really..?? < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 12:53:28 PM): yep!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:53:40 PM): Ill see what I can do...!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:53:49 PM): k - I was beginning to think that you got married...
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:54:09 PM): any time....!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:54:28 PM): any time?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:54:29 PM): no...not married...but...still not split up...either..!
Karin (9/17/2009 12:54:58 PM): ah, yes...hey, gotta go meeting now...wanna chat later?
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:55:11 PM): Ill try to look for you...
Karin (9/17/2009 12:55:19 PM): ok (sure...)
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:55:30 PM): sure..< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 12:55:40 PM): alright then! bye!
Jeff (9/17/2009 12:55:45 PM): bye...!
Later...
Karin (9/17/2009 2:54:08 PM): U still alive there??
Jeff (9/17/2009 2:54:30 PM): on conference call...be a few minutes..
Karin (9/17/2009 2:54:41 PM): np - be back shortly
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:09:27 PM): Hey...!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:09:44 PM): hey to you too! were you testing me with your vow of silence...you must know by now that I'm a communicator ...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:11:25 PM): I do know that you're a communicator...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:11:38 PM): and Im usually not a monk with vow of silence either..!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:12:39 PM): ahhh, so you were kidnapped then?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:12:41 PM): :}
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:12:52 PM): I was...did you read about it...??
Karin (9/17/2009 3:13:07 PM): is it going to be a front page story? otherwise I may not see it...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:13:29 PM): No...in obits...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:13:46 PM): I see, that's what I was afraid of...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:14:03 PM): why be afraid...I can come visit you at night..!!! < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 3:14:35 PM): you know, one can never tell with you old guys!! I like something with a bit more substance!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:14:55 PM): darn...that's a killer for me..!!!!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:15:32 PM): you have enough substance for me! when you wanna stop communicating you need to do one of two things...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:16:34 PM): yes..??
Karin (9/17/2009 3:16:35 PM): you either tell me that you've gotten married...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:16:43 PM): k......or..
Karin (9/17/2009 3:16:47 PM): or, you tell me that you are coming over to spend the night...:}
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:16:59 PM): < g >.....
Karin (9/17/2009 3:17:11 PM): hmmm...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:17:14 PM): no marriage...but also dont think I can come over tonight...!!!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:17:28 PM): ah well, I figured
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:17:42 PM): sucks to be me...???
Karin (9/17/2009 3:17:49 PM): ...and me!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:18:11 PM): I see whatcha mean...< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 3:18:22 PM): hey, maybe some day...you'll make it out of that barrel
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:18:36 PM): which barrel...?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:18:49 PM): the one that you are so solidly stuck in
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:19:08 PM): I am kinda solidly in it......
Karin (9/17/2009 3:19:58 PM): yes...are you getting more solidly stuck there, or can I give you a little lube??
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:20:43 PM): < g >...one never knows how well a little lube will work, of course...!! but, I don't appear to be less solidly stuck here...unfortunately...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:21:06 PM): well, I don't want to function as a "fluffer"
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:21:17 PM): what's a fluffer...?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:22:01 PM): the function of a fluffer, is typically on the set of a porn production...it's the girl that gets the male "ready" for his scenes
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:22:21 PM): ah...where do we find those..!!!??? < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 3:22:55 PM): yeah right...NOT here!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:23:16 PM): I know...and I dont know when that situation is gonna be...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:23:46 PM): I know...you just need to spend some more time with me! silly man!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:24:11 PM): ah.......I see....It sounds pretty simple..!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:24:23 PM): but...Im not sure it is quite that simple....
Karin (9/17/2009 3:24:42 PM): yes, well we both know that my life is simple ...for the greater part...do you own stock in Karen with the E?
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:25:14 PM): Not stock of any value..!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:26:52 PM): I guess I'll have to deal with you "as is"
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:27:10 PM): for the moment...I suppose that makes sense...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:27:52 PM): ha! ...I'm falling for this guy, who has no idea what fun his life would be with me...can you believe that??!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:28:29 PM): Sounds entirely unbelievable...to me.......!!!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:28:45 PM): yes, well...true enough!!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:29:04 PM): I mean to say it's true enough that I'm falling for him!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:29:42 PM): Awww...I'm sorry that my life hasnt gotten uncomplicated, since we met...and doesnt show immediate signs of getting that way...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:30:01 PM): I think that you are trying to tell me something here???
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:30:33 PM): I am...Im telling you that our timing may not be impeccable...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:31:01 PM): yes, I know that part...is there anything else that you want to add to that? again, if you are happy where you are, then tell me...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:33:31 PM): Im not sure what I am...but...I am concerned about continuing to see you without making a decision to end things there...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:34:13 PM): well, think about it...and make a decision ...you don't have all that much of your "history or loyalty" invested in me. What is it...do you own half the furniture???
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:35:06 PM): I probably do...!! < g >....
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:35:22 PM): But, it's not $$...it's history... loyalty ...etc...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:35:57 PM): I like being with you...and it would certainly be interesting getting to know each other...but...Im still not ready to pull the trigger with her...for whatever reason..
Karin (9/17/2009 3:36:29 PM): got it...well, then you're just going to have to try to spend more time getting to know me
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:37:54 PM): well...I appreciate it...but...Im wondering if I need to do the more traditional - resolve things there...before you and I get more involved...??
Karin (9/17/2009 3:38:08 PM): I certainly understand that you boys need to be sure of things...before moving on...I think it's in the male genetic make up
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:38:31 PM): you've mistaken me for a male..!!!!
Karin (9/17/2009 3:38:34 PM): well, if you aren't willing to take the time to get to know me???
Karin (9/17/2009 3:38:52 PM): ha! ha! ...no, I'm pretty sure of what you are...that's what happens when somebody takes their pants off...lol...hmmmm
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:39:40 PM): how the hell did that happen..!!??? < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 3:40:00 PM): I KNOW!!! it's amazing how things just sneak up on you!
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:40:36 PM): exactly...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:40:56 PM): I just am not sure that I can find the time... to make it worthwhile for you...at the moment...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:41:11 PM): I want to see you...but if that's too much of a problem for you...say so now
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:41:52 PM): Id like to see you again too...I really would...but...Im not sure when or how or where...and it just seems awfully complicated and stress filled right now...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:42:00 PM): I can slide out of your life if you like
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:42:29 PM): that lube again..??
Karin (9/17/2009 3:42:30 PM): you are not making it easy for me to win you over
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:42:40 PM): I know Im not...but...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:43:15 PM): Im dealing with 2 fronts here...my own fault...and my own making...I know...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:43:43 PM): I don't really want to end things like this ...I like to have closure, if that's the road that you and I are taking
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:44:00 PM): and how to we achieve closure...?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:44:04 PM): I could be wondering about your happiness for years to come
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:44:27 PM): you and me both...< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 3:44:38 PM): the only thing that you need to say to me is that you do not want to see me anymore
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:45:14 PM): that's like abra cadabra...?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:45:51 PM): yep! it is! certainly does not change my feelings, but it will make me vanish from your life. I seem to have a hard time staying in that "friend" mode with you, but if that's something that you want...
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:47:28 PM): well...I just dont think that I can do much toward making you happy until I resolve things there...I know that Im going to disappoint you in terms of availability...in terms of doing fun things...(public phobia...etc..)...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:48:06 PM): ok - is it time for me to say good-bye then, or how would you like me to handle this?
Karin (9/17/2009 3:48:54 PM): Do what you need to do, if it's continuing on with your life the way that it is, or...something else
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:49:56 PM): Im sorry...I really like you too...and enjoy being with you...But, I need to move back to friend mode with you...unless and until things change for me...if you wanna be friends...and if not...I understand that too...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:50:37 PM): good enough, we can be friends (too bad)... I get it
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:50:58 PM): Im sure you dont get it entirely...Im not sure I do either entirely...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:51:53 PM): I have a feeling that you're never going to get yourself moved out of your current situation, but if you are happy enough there, then it's all good
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:52:37 PM): phone here...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:52:38 PM): hmmm, I may get it more than you think,
Karin (9/17/2009 3:52:43 PM): you want me to say "good bye" now...or wait for you?
Jeff (9/17/2009 3:57:06 PM): brb...
Karin (9/17/2009 3:57:08 PM): k
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:02:01 PM): sorry...back...so...you get it more than I think...?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:02:14 PM): I believe that I do...I spent 10 years married to a man that I should never have married...it was comfortable...but I was really missing love
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:03:09 PM): yep...I think that describes my situation...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:03:49 PM): I guess the only other item Id mention though ...is my concern about whether love is possible...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:03:53 PM): you know what Einstein said...??
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:04:03 PM): it's all relative..?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:04:09 PM): how do you mean whether love is possible?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:04:14 PM): nope!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:04:22 PM): well...whether lasting love...is possible...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:04:35 PM): I see
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:04:39 PM): or realistic...or whatever...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:04:51 PM): what Einstein said for the definition of insanity...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:05:03 PM): doing the same thing..
Karin (9/17/2009 4:05:10 PM): I think that we all "make" our own situations
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:05:10 PM): and expecting a different result..?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:05:14 PM): right!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:05:53 PM): I believe in love...I think it's achievable...But, I certainly have never experienced it more than short little spurts...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:05:59 PM): I do believe that you'd be a perfect fit for me, but, if you don't believe in yourself...you just keep picking the wrong women...for yourself
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:06:34 PM): that's probably true...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:07:02 PM): bumper sticker: life is an adventure, it's not a rest stop
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:07:15 PM): although, that doesnt leave me brimming with confidence that choosing you...would necessarily be any wiser..!!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:07:34 PM): you think...am I the same?
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:07:47 PM): no....entirely different...than Karen with an E...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:08:04 PM): but...Im just saying that if I look back at my track record of choices...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:08:18 PM): why should I be confident of any choice..?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:08:53 PM): well, I think that you are not making this choice (me), I'm the one making the choice here (...were I given the opportunity)
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:08:54 PM): my ONLY wife...< g >...was entirely different than Karen with an E...in a different way...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:09:18 PM): are there similarities?
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:09:32 PM): well...I think there are probably more similarities between you and my ex wife...than you and Karen...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:09:43 PM): but..also clearly plenty of differences between you and the ex...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:10:00 PM): or...at least it appears that way...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:10:12 PM): yeah, I think Karen with an E may as well be your wife...you've left yourself absolutely no wiggle room for anything else
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:10:25 PM): that's very true....
Karin (9/17/2009 4:11:02 PM): where is your own residence?
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:11:09 PM): and I could start to shoehorn some wiggle room in there...but...Im not sure whether I want that or not...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:11:15 PM): shaker...an apt...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:11:33 PM): right, I think you are happy ENOUGH where you are
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:12:04 PM): I am happy in some ways...yep...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:12:24 PM): well then, I guess this case is closed, yes?
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:12:34 PM): it's not the life I envisioned...most especially...because it is sex-less...lol...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:12:51 PM): yes, well little boy, you want some candy??
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:13:28 PM): you're not gonna take advantage of me in a sexual way...are you..???? tremble...tremble...!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:13:57 PM): yes, I think that I may...you gotta keep all the parts working you know!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:14:17 PM): tell me about it...< g >
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:15:43 PM): are you gonna give me candy too..!!??? < g >
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:15:51 PM): you promised..!!!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:16:06 PM): sure, I'll give you as much candy as you like...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:17:01 PM): I appreciate all of it...and I love every part of the picture...the hanging with you...the glass or 2 of wine...and yes... of course...the love making...but....Im still concerned that it's not a great idea for either of us...at the moment..
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:17:43 PM): it's oh so very tempting.....................
Karin (9/17/2009 4:18:23 PM): yes, well my dear, do what you need (and want) to do...you'll be breaking my heart...until I find someone else to love...somehow, I felt that this would end tragically for me...but life's a bitch sometimes
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:20:00 PM): Im trying to avoid...a tragic ending...which is why Im concerned about us getting more involved...without me ending my other relationship...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:21:36 PM): yes, well it's already tragic, particularly since I believe that you will never pry yourself loose from the insanity that you are living...so, do what you need to do...but...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:22:02 PM): but...?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:22:23 PM): I would consider waiting for you for a time, but am not sure that you are prepared to make any changes in your present life
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:23:08 PM): I dont know whether I will...so...I cant ask you to wait...If things do change...of course Id pursue you...if you were available...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:23:47 PM): if I knew...that it was just a matter of time...before I escaped my current situation...I would ask you to wait... but...Im not sure...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:24:47 PM): yes, I'd hope that you would, but keep in mind that I don't stay still for too long...I do know how to move on
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:25:25 PM): I understand..that nothing stands still... least of all you...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:25:41 PM): or perhaps...only I stand still...< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 4:26:27 PM): I hope you do not stand still...I would love to have you in my life, I'm just sorry that you do not recognize what is going on...with me...and you
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:27:15 PM): I recognize that it's a wonderful thing...is it the relationship Ive been searching for...Im not sure...I think time would tell...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:27:51 PM): don't you think it was strange that things started out they way that they did??
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:28:31 PM): Im not sure what you mean...which things...??
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:29:21 PM): our becoming infatuated...online..?? our continuing infatuation...throughout 2 meetings...??
Karin (9/17/2009 4:29:37 PM): yes, individuals make postulates for something to happen...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:29:55 PM): k....
Karin (9/17/2009 4:30:10 PM): what happens is that you "pull in" the stuff that you want and need from life...or at least that's how I operate
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:31:06 PM): hang on phone......
Karin (9/17/2009 4:31:08 PM): k
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:40:41 PM): sorry..
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:40:46 PM): back..
Karin (9/17/2009 4:40:49 PM): I'm not infatuated with you, my feelings are, in fact, much deeper - it's like a commitment for making someone happy, and making their life as much fun, passionate, and interesting as it can be ... and if YOU need to be where you are with your life, I'm actually okay with that, I see all of this as a missed opportunity, and you know timing is everything, I may have to wait 'till my next lifetime to catch up with you. Don't believe for a second that you are not coming back. These are not necessarily things that one discusses via im tho...so, grab the opportunity now, or later...or maybe never...I like to rock my own world, why would I not want to do the same for someone that I loved, even more than for myself? ...of course, this is all theoretical as it stands
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:41:53 PM): I am NOT making a date with you for my next lifetime..!! What if I reneged..!!??? < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 4:42:06 PM): yes, that would be a problem indeed!!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:42:22 PM): I dont mean to joke...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:42:34 PM): or perhaps I do...a bit....
Karin (9/17/2009 4:42:34 PM): no, it's absolutely fine to joke...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:42:48 PM): lie is very humorous
Karin (9/17/2009 4:42:52 PM): life
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:43:00 PM): freudian slip...?
Karin (9/17/2009 4:43:23 PM): no a slip of the finger!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:43:57 PM): I see your situation, in a much different light than you do
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:44:15 PM): Im sure you do...!!!! and how do you see it??
Karin (9/17/2009 4:45:16 PM): I see it in a couple of different ways, but it would not be completely appropriate for me to evaluate your life for you ...but, I do see the humor in it, kinda like a sitcom
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:45:50 PM): it is like a sitcom...in some ways...sure...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:46:03 PM): it's what happens when people "settle" and don't necessarily live life fully...sorry, I should not make an evaluation
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:46:47 PM): no...you're certainly allowed to...and I think that's accurate to some extent...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:47:12 PM): there are many things involved with making changes, emotions, I mean...for an individual
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:47:24 PM): of course...I need more time with you...to know whether you and I are indeed a great couple...I mean...I see lots of positive signs....but...it's very early...in our relationship..
Karin (9/17/2009 4:47:28 PM): there's always fear of the unknown...I have a question for you...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:49:06 PM): sure...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:49:24 PM): you have to be as honest as you can? ....promise?
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:49:50 PM): sure...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:50:18 PM): okay - what is there that you do not like about me aside from the fact that I keep spilling things
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:51:08 PM): yeah...it's that spilling thing...that's really bothersome...!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:51:19 PM): I like everything about you....But...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:51:24 PM): I KNOW...the only time I do that is around you!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:51:40 PM): the question is...will that flower into love...??
Karin (9/17/2009 4:51:47 PM): yes...right, that's something that only time will tell for you
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:52:14 PM): and you...< g >
Karin (9/17/2009 4:52:31 PM): sorry, I already know where I am with that...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:53:08 PM): no you dont...you really dont...
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:53:13 PM): that...is what infatuation is..
Karin (9/17/2009 4:53:50 PM): whatever! we were not supposed to meet until December...I really missed the mark...lol
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:54:01 PM): yeah...that's right..!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:54:24 PM): so come back in December...!
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:54:34 PM): will do..!!
Karin (9/17/2009 4:55:39 PM): now what? perhaps we should stop communicating? personally, I think that you need to get to know me better, but I'm not sure how to go about doing that until then...(or we can start with a clean slate in December...lol)
Jeff (9/17/2009 4:57:39 PM): I dont know how to proceed...I would suggest sort of a day to day approach...I don't think I can plan to come out to see you...for the time being...But, as far as otherwise interacting...It's somewhat your call...
Karin (9/17/2009 4:59:56 PM): yes, well...my initial reaction is that we should just plan to meet somewhere in December...if you are ready then...and START at that point in time, but my second thought is that I would miss you dearly if I did not communicate with you at all...but, I do believe that option one would be the better choice...I'm not sure ...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:00:41 PM): Im not either...and frankly whatever we decide right at this moment...may not be what we stick with....
Karin (9/17/2009 5:01:45 PM): I need some time to think this over. if I leave you to your own devices, you will never get "unhitched"...but then again, perhaps you do not really want to do that
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:02:13 PM): Im not sure I really do wanna get unhitched... I have decidedly mixed emotions...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:02:21 PM): the decision is entirely yours then
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:02:49 PM): again...if I knew...that I wanted to get unhitched...and just didnt know when that was gonna happen...I wouldnt be curtailing our meetings..
Karin (9/17/2009 5:03:09 PM): you should pick a time and a place...(if you want to go that route)...and I'll be there...you can send me an invitation...lol
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:04:02 PM): but...I may be more or less entwined with Karen then...if more...then I dont know that Ill be showing up...if less entwined...I may be seeking you out far before Dec...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:04:02 PM): ...or not...well, you know how to get in touch with me...if you show up, I'll be pretty much beside myself, if not...not so much beside myself!
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:05:40 PM): yeah...Ill probably show up...and find you and your new beau..!! < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 5:05:59 PM): hmmm...I should tell you something ...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:06:05 PM): please do...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:07:08 PM): I have an Italian friend, who lives in London...he contacted me earlier this week...told me that he's selling his house in London (who knows how long that will take)...and moving to Ohio...not necessarily for me, and I'm not exactly sure how I feel about any of that...and told him so. Told him that I was very hot about some other guy.
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:08:57 PM): what guy are you hot for..?? Ill moider the bum..!!
Karin (9/17/2009 5:09:12 PM): yeah, don’t hurt yourself!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:09:22 PM): unhand myself..?
Karin (9/17/2009 5:09:28 PM): yes, please do...!
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:09:43 PM): if I must...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:10:01 PM): so...who knows what direction the winds will blow here..
Karin (9/17/2009 5:11:00 PM): yes, I'm hoping that they will blow you in my direction...but time does change things. I am pretty determined about you, but...ah well, you need to do whatever it is that you need to do...be happy
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:12:20 PM): well...I appreciate all your good feelings... and have many the same toward you...but, for the moment...I don't think I can reciprocate in a meaningful fashion...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:12:41 PM): and I dont wanna just take...and not give in return...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:13:20 PM): you know I only want meaningful in my life...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:13:37 PM): I do know that...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:14:07 PM): well, I am somewhat speechless at this juncture...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:14:28 PM): Im sorry...that you're speechless...Im sorry that Im being hurtful...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:15:31 PM): well, you decide if you want to keep up some communication...I'll let you originate it...if not, we'll see if I get an invitation in the mail sometime
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:15:45 PM): in December...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:15:53 PM): or sooner...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:16:05 PM): which invitation are we talking about here... us going away...?
Karin (9/17/2009 5:16:22 PM): whatever you like, you will be the originator of the invitation
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:16:34 PM): k......
Karin (9/17/2009 5:17:33 PM): I won't have a change of heart until January
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:17:52 PM): k...well...we'll talk a lot...before Jan...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:18:15 PM): ...okay, that would be nice for me
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:18:30 PM): for me too...but, for now...I better get back to a couple things on my desk...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:18:41 PM): good bye
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:18:58 PM): hey...I am sorry...if Ive disappointed you...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:19:50 PM): I had mixed emotions about us getting together ...at this time...but...let my infatuation...and lust...overcome...my concerns...
Karin (9/17/2009 5:19:50 PM): it's life...
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:20:10 PM): k...well...anyway...we'll discuss...!! < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 5:20:55 PM): bye
Jeff (9/17/2009 5:21:01 PM): bye hon....!
Later...
Karin (9/17/2009 9:09:27 PM): You know what the single greatest thing is about being a human being on this planet? ...yes, it's definitely all about the games that we are able to and allowed to play...but the truly great thing about our lives (in the free countries at least) is that we have freedom of choice. Regardless of the restrictions that we place on ourselves, the simple fact remains that we have the freedom to choose. With that freedom of choice, for us sentient beings, comes responsibility - responsibility for our families and the groups that we belong to as well as to the human race, but an even greater responsibility for each of us to live life to the fullest and to accept that responsibility, as well as the responsibility to be happy. The ONLY thing that happens when people are not happy...is a quicker death. I'm sure that may sound pretty strange to you, but it's true. If you relegate me to friendship, perhaps that will only be my loss, because if you are happy where you are in life, well then, that's that.
Karin (9/17/2009 9:23:44 PM): I have had more than my share of hardships and the only think that has happened to me over time is that those hardships have clarified and crystallized what I know is right and true.
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:26:03 PM): Hey
Karin (9/17/2009 9:27:04 PM): oh hey!!
Karin (9/17/2009 9:27:17 PM): I was writing the last of my Jeffrey Chronicles...did not mean for you to "catch" me!!!
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:27:37 PM): I see
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:28:47 PM): I did catch you!
Karin (9/17/2009 9:29:07 PM): you did...I must sound like an odd person to you
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:29:35 PM): Not in the least
Karin (9/17/2009 9:29:40 PM): hmmm...
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:29:50 PM): That's why I like you
Karin (9/17/2009 9:29:55 PM): :} right...I'm too honest...
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:30:05 PM): < g >
Karin (9/17/2009 9:30:09 PM): ...and too good!
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:30:12 PM): Not at all
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:30:28 PM): No there is no such thing
Karin (9/17/2009 9:30:35 PM): well, I don't know if you've read all that...
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:31:06 PM): Just skimmed. Need to read
Karin (9/17/2009 9:31:14 PM): I've been told that I'm not the norm...not sure that I know what the norm is tho...lol
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:31:49 PM): Thank god
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:32:29 PM): We have much in common dear
Karin (9/17/2009 9:33:11 PM): I'd like to know that! I believe that we do too, but as you said the timing is not opportune...for us to really find that out
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:34:12 PM): Unfortunately
Karin (9/17/2009 9:54:10 PM): I'm getting ready to call my daughte
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:54:12 PM): Well dear...I just wanted to say hi...
Karin (9/17/2009 9:54:20 PM): hi back!
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:54:31 PM): Time for me to crash
Karin (9/17/2009 9:55:18 PM): pleasant dreams...
Jeff (9/17/2009 9:55:44 PM): You too hon!
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More tomorrow…
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